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In this post, I provide an outline describing why it is probable that Vader will track the remains of the Chimera and intervene prior to Ezra and Thrawn arriving on Csilla.
Several years ago, it was highly speculated that Ezra and Rebels were Disney's canon version of Starkiller (Galen Merrick) and the Force Unleashed.
For those unfamiliar, Galen Merrick was Darth Vader's "secret apprentice" in Legends, whom he trained in hopes of eventually over throwing the emperor. As we know from ROTS, Vader always intended to seige control of the Empire by defeating Palpatine, though he would never be able to accomplish this goal after his defeat on Mustafar without a sufficiently powerful partner.
While I can no longer find the article, I can specifically recall an interview with Freddie Prinze Jr (Kanan in Rebels) which acknowledged the parallels of Rebels and TFU. (If anyone can provide the URL I will post the link as an edit for reference.)
To clearly establish this theory, we need to properly define the conundrum faced by Thrawn and Ezra after the events on Lothal. The Chimera has essentially been demolished by the Purgill, the bridge has been penetrated which implies that everyone on board will die in vacuum if the ship is abandoned in space. The assumption at present is that Thrawn and Ezra find themselves in the Unknown Regions where the Chiss are fighting an alien adversary. However this synopsis clearly misses a few steps.
First off, we have no way of knowing whether the Chimera is functional at all, which means we cannot assume Ezra and Thrawn have any control over where they end up. In other words, the Purgill almost certainly abandon the ship in a random location, so making the assumption that the Chimera is conveniently shipwrecked near the Chiss home world is a bit of an absurdity. (Though this is Star Wars, so who knows?)
Second, as mentioned above, the bridge is now in vacuum which means Thrawn and anyone else on the bridge is likely deceased. Jedi however, have been shown to be able to survive in vacuum, but only for brief periods of time.
In TFU, Starkiller was thrown into space by Vader to appease the Emperor for attempting to betray him. Vader later recovers Starkiller to have him revived. Thrawn and Ezra now face these same circumstances. Thrawn has been established as an old ally of Vader's, meanwhile Ezra has been shown to be one of the few Jedi to survive multiple encounters with the Emperor. That would seemingly imply a lot of incentive for Vader to track the Chimera and have their bodies recovered from the wreckage. Sending them to Csilla would be Vader's idea of keeping a valuable pair of assets temporarily hidden from the Emperor, possibly even providing Ezra with a Sith holocron and/or a new lightsaber.
Season 3 of Rebels clearly displayed Ezra's ability to use the dark side of the force. It also demonstrated how heavily influenced both he and Kanan were by the Bendu. Additionally, the sequel trilogy makes it pretty definitive that Ezra must no longer be a Jedi at that point in the timeline.
Ezra now knows that the Empire will never fall without overthrowing Palpatine. It also wouldn't be difficult for Ezra to establish some degree of trust in Vader, knowing his connection to Ahsoka.
To be clear, I'm not suggesting that Ezra would become Vader's apprentice in the literal sense that Starkiller had. The psychology of the two characters have been developed in extremely different scenarios. However, Vader and Ezra each have plenty of motivation to form a mutually beneficial alliance. Its important to remember that during this time, Vader is still unaware Luke exists, and finding a strong ally would be his only hope to reclaim the empire.
In conclusion, Ezra and Thrawn being randomly dumped into the Unknown Regions is a little too convenient. It is my belief that the events outlined above would do a great deal to benefit the overall story and provide more purpose to events portrayed in both Rebels and the ST. Additionally, Ezra will need to obtain a greater sense of purpose to completely abandon the rebellion and remain on Csilla with Thrawn, Vader could provide that. I also believe that this would open the opportunity for LF to place Sam Witwer in live action to reprise his role as Starkiller if it is acknowledged that Ezra is the canon incarnation of the character.
So, I've got huge wall of text here, so if anyone doesn't really want to read all of it, just skip right on to the bottom.
Basically, I'm getting into the Iron Bull romance, as well as the Zevran romance, as well as their characters within the romance because I am clearly a bit overprotective of my game romances and I don't know what's become of me.
This isn't supposed to be really all in depth analysis, just me and my rambling thoughts and just trying to put things in a coherent manner.
It's not often, but every now and then I've come across comments that indicate they think the IB romance, and the Zevran/Warden romance is all shallow and nothing else. And it just makes me want to protest. So here I am protesting and defending.
Yes, Bioware has given us two companions (well three if you count Isabela, but I haven't romanced her so I don't know much about her romance except it can be seen as shallow as well) that pretty offer you nothing but casual sex in the beginning. And you can keep it like that. But, like they seem to do, they've added a deeper side to the romance if you choose to follow it. (I can also say a lot of the other relationships can be like that as well in the game, but for right now, the spotlight in my post are these two.) So the Iron Bull Romance:
I think one of the factors that probably put some people off (and what I've noticed in the comments) is the kinky,bdsm light side of IB's romance. Yeah, if you're not into that, then I completely get it. But it's not the main theme of the romance, and it doesn't dominate everything. Again though, if it's something of a nope for you, then I completely understand and I'm not trying to shame anyone for not liking something. Or anything like that.
As IB puts it, after you talk to him again the first time, he's good at reading people and seeing what they need (A nice handy talent for a spy) - for the Inquisitor, who's now in charge of a growing organization and has the heavy responsibility of not only defeating Corypheus but has other problems and fires he needs to put out (HLTA, WEWH, for examples), maybe being able to relinquish control and just be the center of attention and not have to worry about the fate of world, is one of them.
During the "ride the bull scene" he explicitly wants to make sure you want this- "Not sure if you're ready for it."
He has his preferences on what he likes, and he wants to make it clear to you. "See you say that, but you REALLY don't know what that means."
He wants you informed, he wants your consent, and he wants you to understand that.
The beginning stage of this is alllllll about consent. He respects you enough he doesn't just spring this on you, he tries to warn you about his preferences, what he likes, and wants to make sure you do as well at this moment. He's feeling you out- like he said you've sent out the signals, you've done the flirting, made it look like you're interested and now he feels it's the time to test this out.
I really love this bit. I love relationships that bring out consent and being informed. While we don't get the whole explanation right off the bat, it's enough to show that to Iron Bull- getting your consent is IMPORTANT.
He gives you a chance to back out- with your line "Why don't you show me."
He instantly puts you in a potion of vulnerability, to gauge, to see. "Last chance."
He gives you a look into it, then gives you a chance to say no. Information, Respect and Consent.
BIG DAMN DEAL HERE.
Then later on, another scene where you discuss what happened: "When it's someone you care about, you give them what they need."
(Now this may just be part of the role he's playing before the Demands of the Qun scene. I honestly do not know if the romance can be started before his personal quest since with me it starts after that, so since for me this scene he gives you this line and it's clear, he does care about you. It's not the serious end yet, but he DOES care about you, this isn't just a role. He cares and knows that you need something else.
Inquisitor: "So if I agree.. how does this umm..work?"
Iron Bull: "Outside this room, nothing changes. You're the Inquisitor, you're the boss."
Clearly defining right there that what goes on between you doesn't not bleed into everything else. You're in charge and just because you're sleeping together doesn't mean he'll challenge you on a decision or argue with you about something. He's making it clear right there, he's not going to cause trouble, or undermine you. This isn't a power move or a trap.
Second part of this line: * "You will always be safe."* The first part is about giving permission. INFORMATION, RESPECT, CONSENT.
Even for something that's supposed to be appear shallow and casual, this is showing indeed that it's not shallow. It may be casual in the beginning, it may have started by being physical, but shallow relationships really don't give a damn about those three things, and this give you an insight that it's not so shallow after all.
He gives you a safe word, gives you something for an out if you find yourself not wanting to continue. "No questions asked."
He won't throw a fit, he won't try to undermine you later, he'll respect your decision. INFORMATION, RESPECT, CONSENT.
And then we get the reveal scene (involving the Kadan Necklace and our Advisers- Josie's reaction is always awesome.)
At first IB is fine with the first two interruptions, and i think it's because of how Cullen and Josie react. Then Cassandra walks in and reacts and he's clearly had it, "For fucks's sake..."
In my own interpretation, i take this as more than just irritation, but also worry- especially since right now what's supposed to be private for the both of you, behind closed doors with no one else part of this- is now being thrust out into the open, the world being let in. This was not supposed to happen. The world is beyond that door and is supposed to stay there. And Cassandra... well Cassandra.. is Cassandra and he knows it.
Since the game gives you the opportunity to confirm or deny the relationship, in response to Cassandra's inquiry, I see Cassandra as the viewpoint that many would hold and how you respond to that viewpoint is what either ends this as a casual shallow relationship, or confirms it into a deeper relationship. I find it interesting it is her asking the question that gives you the chance to confirm or deny, instead of it coming from Josephine, who as as the Inquisitions Ambassador has more of a right (If anyone has the right to actually do so) to question whether or not this is serious or a fling.
She's the one that has to deal with the image of the Inquisition, so why didn't Bioware make her the that questions it? I mean how much more scandalous can it be for the Inquisitor to be involved with a Qunari? (About as tied in scandal as for the Inq to be involved with Dorian I suppose... ) Even one that's been disowned by his people?
Anyway, getting off track.
Once you confirm that it is indeed a relationship and that you have no intention on ending it, the advisers give their acceptance of it (Cassandra too, although it seems grudging but it could be the tone.) and leave you be, leading you to the scene:
The Kadan's Necklace- further cementing of the relationship. Earlier, during a conversation with IB, he'll tell you about the Kadan Necklace.
(Courtesy of the wiki: When asked how Qunari show they’re serious about a relationship, Bull explains that Qunari don’t have sex for love but that to show their commitment to an individual they craft matching necklaces out of a dragon’s tooth broken in half, each party wearing half the tooth. “Then, no matter how far apart life takes them, they’re always together.”...
Say it with me..awwwww.
From that moment, the relationship isn't just physical, even though it starts out as physical, the dialogue during it gives it more weight, but the necklace makes it strong. The beginning of being called Kadan.
A later scene, after uh talking about what the other safe-words might be, (oh Bull), the conversation goes a little serious: "I just hope I made things a little easier for you."
Again, indicating that he's there to help you, because of how big your job is, that you just need someone to help you deal with all that, even in the way he does it.
An opportunity rises to make the conversation serious- "If we don't make it out of this"
He immediately says "Katoh." He wants that direction to stop, and it's said almost desperately, and it tugs right at my heart because he's as much of a goner for you as you are for him. "Stop. I can't.. We're coming out of this alive. Together."
THAT IS SO DAMN UNFAIR. Freddie Prinze Jr plays the determination and desperation in that line perfectly.
The I love you exchange comes right after, where he teases about going soft, but can't really blame him for that considering what was just said. But he sees the seriousness, and he returns it, with a soft tone of voice that's just.. UGH. disgusted noise in regards to how sweet this relationship is
The final romance scene, other than the off screen dance in WEWH, is of course at the end of the game, and of course is sweet on it's own.
Another thing I like about the IB/Inquisitor romance, is that once it's confirmed to be serious, IB shuts down any attempt to talk about in banter, but accepts if you respond to it just fine. Like when Varric tries to dig something up about it, and IB's like nope. Or when Cole does this thing and mentions it a couple times (One of them being taken on the war table which BRINGS ALL SORTS OF IMAGES TO MIND) and IB's trying to stop Cole from talking about it in his own way.
Yes sometimes IB tries to deflect, make it seem shallow, but deep down, it's not. It's a serious relationship that has respect.
As Cole says in the banter: "He/She submits, but you serve."
It's not just about the bdsm or the kink or control, but about trust and respect. Towards each other. He may seem in control, but you are the one that is. You're the one that can stop it anytime- Katoh. He's serving you in his way, trusting you with this part of himself and you're trusting him with yourself- your body, your heart, and everything.
Plus him being willing to dance with you in WEWH. We don't see it, but come on. He's dancing with you, IN FRONT OF THE GOSSIPY JACKALS OF THE ORLAIS COURT. Where no doubt it will spread through out ALL OF THEDAS now. If that's not a declaration of some sort, then I'll eat my hat. Or I would if I wore one.
The Iron Bull romance is about respect, about being informed, about consent, and it's really explicit on the consent thing, I mean i don't see that very often in games. I love that part of the romance, I really do.
(Of course, if you choose to sacrifice the Chargers, none of this matters and he's just playing the role until the time comes. But that's not for here.)
Okay, so THAT part done. If any of you are still reading this, I applaud you and here are some cookies. Below is my take, thoughts and interpretations on the one and only Zevran Ariani and his romance with you.
First off, I recommend reading his entire wiki page. Seriously. Read it
I'll still quote the wiki a lot because it can tell you so much more and in better words than I can. The Zevran Arainai Romance
Our Zevran Arainai. Our easy going, carefree assassin who does not have any regrets about who he is and what he does (well he does regret on thing...), who flirts with you and banter flirts with Wynne and Leliana and pretty much everyone (interesting banters, lol) and loves to tales and answer questions and recite Antivan Poetry. He does have his own moral compass it's just... probably not as moral as your Warden's might be (or Alistair's.)
He could easily top so many others with the "worst childhood ever" backstory as well. His mother left her Dalish clan to move in with a man Zevran wasn't sure was his father, and due to the man's debts, she ended up going into prostitution. He was raised in the whorehouse until the Crows bought him-(According to the Wki, he was born around 9:04-9:05. So he was around 7/8 when he was bought) for three sovereigns. They raised him and conditioned him to be one of their assassins, and a poorly treated on at that. Risks falling in love with another assassin, only to be mislead and falsely informed about her betraying the Crows and killed her himself and feels incredible guilt about it, and it's implied he was only willing to take the contract on the Warden because he pretty done with life and had a death wish- he expected to die at that very obvious trap. A part of him wanted to.
He's a major flirt no matter what, and filled with stories, and also heartache and tragedy that he tries to either spin off as something else, or he tries to use his humor and everything else he has to keep you distracted. He's clever, he's smart, and he definitely knows what he's talking about.
One thing I highly recommend for those who have not used Zevran very much, next time you play, have him in your party to to see how well he sees things:
Take him with you to Orzammar and have that run in with Harrowmont's man- his comments will give you a good look into Harrowmont without you even having to meet the man.
Another good look into his character- take him to Haven. Take him to the Guardian. His response to the Guardian's query (about if he regrets any of his assassinations and will try to go into one in detail- it's about him killing Rinna, his first love) is quite telling.
Another look- Take him to the Fade in the Circle Quest- his nightmare is being tortured on the rack- apparently a necessary step to joining the Crows, to prove he can endure pain.
So the start of his romance is similar to Iron Bull here:: Casual, all surface like. Very much not serious AT ALL. He is quite willing to have a casual, all surface, no substance type of fuck buddy relationship with the Warden.
To show from the wiki: *It is a simple enough matter to get into Zevran's good graces. He enjoys playful innuendo and being asked of his exploits, and as long as the Warden can accept his sexual history, the romance will continue. He can be asked to accompany the Warden back to their tent with a moderately high approval rating, which he happily accepts. Afterward, he explains that he holds no claim on the player character and it is their choice to either continue the relationship or end it there.
I like the fact that he explicitly makes this your choice if you want to continue. No hassle, no tears, just acceptance of whatever choice is made. And it's right there in the conversations.
Conversely, if Zevran has a high approval of the Warden and they have not yet asked him to bed, he will offer his company for the night. Asking Zevran about love afterwards will result in a loss of approval, though telling him it's a one night stand will result in a significantly larger approval loss as well as ending the relationship. Zevran is just as faithful as the other romance partners once in a relationship.*
So while he may end being confused about the relationship, he's not a cheat. He stays faithful, even during something that at first glance is casual. He doesn't like being questioned about it, because being questioned brings this into light and considering he was thinking he had no future and he still may not have one at this moment, it's not something one would want to think about.
It's clear in some conversations he's the product of his environment, even though it's also clear in a way he resents the Crows, he just tries to pass it off casually and with jokes. (Hey kind of like Purple Hawke...) His loyalty to them i think had never been very strong, and it ceased to be when the situation with Rinna happened, hence why he gladly offered you his services and joined the fight against the Blight. He took the contract against the Grey Wardens because he had a death wish, thanks to the Rinna situation.
Wiki: His later bid for a contract to kill the two remaining Grey Wardens in Ferelden was interpreted by some in the Crows as an attempt to attain the rank of master, but was in actuality a suicide attempt.
He offered you his services not only out of spite to the Crows, but he most likely assumed he would die during his work with you and the party- either way he dies, but it's so much more sweeter to die not for the Crows but for a greater cause, and i get that interpretation from this: "What we are doing here... stopping the Blight. I can not think of anything I have ever done which is so worthy."
Once you get high enough approval from him, he'll eventually tell you about Rinna:
Wiki: Zevran explains that he had become genuinely smitten with Rinna in a way that directly conflicted with his assassin training. But as the trio planned their attack, Taliesen learned that Rinna had accepted a bribe from their mark and was planning to betray them. Zevran watched Taliesen kill her, callously mocking her pleas of innocence and dying declarations of love for him, and the two men carried out the mission on their own.
Ouch. Ouch. Oh dear Zevran.
Only after their target was dead did they discover the real source of their victim's information, which in turn proved Rinna had been telling the truth. Heartbroken and disgusted by his actions, Zevran returned to the Crows and made a bid for what many believed was a suicide mission: kill any remaining Grey Wardens in Ferelden. He took the job hoping to die at the hands of legendary heroes, only to have his would-be killers show him the mercy he had not given Rinna.
(Sadly the real truth behind her murder came out later, a link to a book that it was mentioned in his wiki.)
So no doubt, his past is what makes having a relationship with him seem to be shallow and surface and why you have to be careful when navigating the relationship talk with him. The last person he let his guard down to love was callously murdered and he did nothing to stop it. No doubt due to his death wish by taking the Grey Warden contract, he never intended to get mercy and he never expected well.. you. (Now keep this in mind if you choose not to do the Dark Ritual, have him with you at Fort Drakon and take the kill of the Arch Demon.)
Here's something said by David Gaider himself, when he had a tumblr and which is now apparently no more, about Zevran and his romance:
Indeed, according to David Gaider, Zevran finds himself quite surprised by a stable romantic relationship with the Warden. Though his reputation as a laughing lover is not undeserved, Zevran had—until meeting the Warden—assumed his life would consist only of "shallow encounters and jobs to be completed," and that he himself was undeserving and in fact incapable of love. A blooming romance with the Warden forces Zevran to confront and admit his own deep feelings. As much as the Warden benefits from Zevran's company, it is fair to say as well that their love is literally life-changing for the assassin."
Another bit from the wiki:
If the Warden is concurrently romancing Alistair, Leliana, or Morrigan, Zevran will eventually ask if that relationship is going anywhere. He will offer to step aside to avoid complications down the road, stating they have "had their fun" but the Warden should pursue the path of lasting happiness, though there is some indication, as noted above, that his feelings run quite a bit deeper than he is letting on.
Ouch. OUCH. That hurts. That really hurts. He thinks so little of himself here, this elf who comes across so blase and pragmatic about everything, that he doesn't even try to fight to keep you himself. He wants YOU to be happy ,so whatever feelings are growing, whatever happiness he is feeling with you, doesn't matter to him.
You and your happiness matter to him. He's already fallen for you, but he's willing to step aside despite that.
I honestly think that goes back to Rinna and the Crows, and the number it did on him. The number the Crows themselves did on him.
Now the romance itself won't take an officially serious turn until after the Calling of the Landsmeet.
The party encounters and slays Zevran's old friend Taliesen, and with that Zevran is given a reprieve from being hunted by the Crows. In gratitude, he offers the Warden an earring.
I accidentally clicked on him while trying to loot so I got the earring while all bloody and surrounded by Crow corpses. Ahhh, it's funny because it was Kaden and Zevran. LOL.
Upon being asked if the item is a token of his affection, Zevran will give an awkward response that should make the answer obvious. However, pushing him to actually say so will result in a refusal to hand over the earring:
Basically saying "I DONT' WANT TO PUT WORDS TO IT. YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST TAKEN IT."
There is an option to suggest that the earring represents a proposal, which Zevran will agree to if it is the Warden's wish that it be taken as such.
So essentially, my Kaden Cousland was proposed to by his assassin boyfriend surrounded by dead bodies and all bloody. This is damn near perfect. ROFL.
This apparently is what Zevran wishes as well.
Yet, he's very careful on this. He's thinking about you, he wants you to want this before he reveals himself to you.
If the Warden decides a proposal is too much after suggesting it, however, the relationship ends as Zevran wants some promise of a future together.
Now see what you've done??? You've given this man reasons to look past his death wish, his guilt over Rinna, had him fall in love with you to the point he actually wants a future for his life and he ends things with you if you don't want to go beyond just the casual.
He gains respect for himself here, a desire to live and have a life with someone.
I repeat the bit from David Gaider: "As much as the Warden benefits from Zevran's company, it is fair to say as well that their love is literally life-changing for the assassin."
Now here's another thing that's interesting about this relationship, what gives it another layer, and makes it more than what it appeared to be in the beginning:
After he has offered the earring, Zevran will refuse sexual encounters. If prompted to give a reason why, or asked if he wants to end the relationship, he will snap at the Warden and end the conversation. When asked about his change in behavior he explains that he is confused about his feelings, and from here the Warden will have to either express love or end the romance. If the conversation ends well, Zevran will again take the Warden's bed and, more importantly, their relationship will continue.
It stops being entirely physical and this whole love thing has gotten him quite confused and he doesn't know what to do with it. How's that for a romance being turned on it's head?
All I can think of is Zevran pretty much internally freaking out in the beginning, like "I'm in love? What the hell? When did this happen? HOLY SHIT I'M IN LOVE."
In DA 2, if you import a save where a warden romanced him and died, Zevran turns down sex with Isabela during his mission in Act 3, still mourning.
(However- courtesy of the wiki guide: There is a bug that causes Zevran to offer to sleep with Hawke and/or Isabela, despite having been in a loving relationship with the Warden that has not been officially fixed. Although the dialogue responses for Zevran turning Isabela's proposals down and commenting on his relationship with the Warden have been recorded for imported saves, they do not appear in-game for many players. An unofficial fix for Icon pcusers can be found here.)
Not such a shallow romance after all, if he loved you and pretty much neve loved again and even turns down casual sex.
Also, he's the only companion who during the Inquisition, if romanced by the Warden and is alive, is by his Warden's side.
(Again courtesy of the Zevran wiki: If Zevran was romanced in Origins, and the Hero of Ferelden survived the events of Origins, a letter from the Warden received during the War table operation Contact Hero of Ferelden indicates that Zevran has joined them in their expedition to Thedas's far west.)
I can just imagine how that went: "I'm going to cure the Calling." "You mean, we are, my dear Warden." "You have the Crows to finish dismantling." "They will be here when I decide to do so. There are many Crows. There is only one you. I am coming with you."
I think I could probably write another twenty pages on this the way it seems to be going, but for now I'm gonna put a stop to it. If you all have read this, I seriously thank you and here's some cookies and some hugs.
TL;DR: Basically, the romances with Iron Bull and Zevran, while they start off as shallow, can become so much more. All you have to do is look beneath the surface and take the time to develop it and catch the subtlety. While they might not have as much content as other romances do, they are just as meaningful and deep as other romances are. And I may be too overprotective of my game romances.
oh yes, here you go Sulevin
for your reading pleasure.
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